tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post6035212509041482136..comments2024-03-18T08:20:19.461+00:00Comments on Transpontine: Royal Albert for SaleUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-2698261126991175342013-01-08T12:56:53.227+00:002013-01-08T12:56:53.227+00:00just to say i work there and all seems ok :-) ever...just to say i work there and all seems ok :-) everyone will fight to keep the albert open as we love it as much as the people who go there. <br /><br />i don't know what i can say but i know the freehold is up for sale but our lease is 15yrs. you can never be certain but for now it seems we're all fine.<br /><br />we got some kick arse ales coming in so i'm just gonna keep working and see what happens. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09426128025993984143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-69594109156805173182012-11-26T17:15:59.977+00:002012-11-26T17:15:59.977+00:00Has there been planning permission granted for The...Has there been planning permission granted for The Walpole demolition?<br /><br />I thought the current building was going to be converted.<br /><br />Could it not be listed?<br />It has some fantastic Victorian tiling which should be preserved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-62462881918793373862012-11-20T21:14:24.101+00:002012-11-20T21:14:24.101+00:00Sorry for the delay in responding.
Antic run pubs...Sorry for the delay in responding.<br /><br />Antic run pubs, that is what they are in business to do. For an independent publican running his or her own pub it may well make sense to own the freehold (or a long leasehold) particularly if it is his or her home. For an expanding chain like Antic money tied up in property is less money to expand and extend the core business.<br /><br />If you go to Find a Property on the Land Registry website and search by postcode SE14 6TJ you will see that 460 (the pub) and 460A (the shop unit next door that was once part of the Paradise bar) are still shown as seperate freeholds. As previously commented it may be that any change is yet to be registered. <br /><br />From what two pints says it would appear that Back Ant are in a different situation from Antic. Black Ant shared the same registered office address as Antic up until August 2011.<br /><br />Unless Antic choose to shed some light on the subject it may all remain a bit mysterious, but Antic Ltd appear to up to date with accounts and returns to Companies House.The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369913438808659085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-39555280008421681902012-11-19T22:39:29.805+00:002012-11-19T22:39:29.805+00:00It the Black Ant Company owned the freehold, it ma...It the Black Ant Company owned the freehold, it may be of interest to note that that company appears to have gone into administration: http://www.companiesinadministration.co.uk/company/03400474/the-black-ant-company-limited<br /><br />The Royal Albert is not currently listed on their properties up for sale by insolvency practitioners, though interestingly land behind the (antic-run) Westow House in Crystal Palace is: http://www.moorfieldscr.com/properties-for-sale/<br /><br />There's clearly some historic relationship between Antic and Black Ant (perhaps the latter as a separate but linked property company). Antic are still trading, so cleary separate enough. But we do need some clarity about who owns the Albert now - if it's in the hands of administrators I would be very worried.Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps pleasenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-401221105186484612012-11-19T21:41:34.350+00:002012-11-19T21:41:34.350+00:00Bill, I haven't checked the land registry: are...Bill, I haven't checked the land registry: are you saying that Black Ant (i.e. Antic) actually own the freehold on the pub, and therefore that it is actually them that is selling (perhaps in some kind of partnership with whoever owns the neighbourhing buildings)?.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17026835814805695527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-33654435877767124762012-11-18T16:41:14.284+00:002012-11-18T16:41:14.284+00:00Would be interesting to get a comment from Antic. ...Would be interesting to get a comment from Antic. Seeing as they are mobilising the community to save their other pub from development (the Catford tavern) it would be cynical if they have similar long term development ideas here. <br /><br />None of the above reflects on Richard who ran Jam Circus, the Albert and now the Tavern. He's a fine landlord. Monkeyboynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-18671161855146006102012-11-18T14:52:03.653+00:002012-11-18T14:52:03.653+00:00I suspect the description of the pub's tenant ...I suspect the description of the pub's tenant as TBAC Ltd is erroneous. In April this year I was researching the history of the pub and the then freehold owners of the pub were The Black Ant Company Limited. Black Ant is part of the Antic set up and I presume somebody at Kalmars has abbreviated the name not realising that there is an entirely unrelated company actually called TBAC Ltd. It is common for commercial leases to be backdated and if the lease described by Kalmars does exist it is yet to be registered with the Land Registry. I do hope that Antic took proper legal advice before going involved in a complicated land deal. Antic recently failed to get a license in Woolwich simply because they failed to understand the licensing law considerations that apply in what is designated as 'Saturation Zone'.The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369913438808659085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-52608271117593599302012-11-18T14:51:48.082+00:002012-11-18T14:51:48.082+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369913438808659085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8650332.post-307534638234407582012-11-18T14:51:34.320+00:002012-11-18T14:51:34.320+00:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.The Grim Reaperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17369913438808659085noreply@blogger.com