On Vesta Road SE4 there's still an old county boundary marker. Walking up towards the roundabout at the top of Jerningham/Pepys Roads takes you into historic Kent:
Walking down the road towards the railway line and Shardeloes Road you are in historic Surrey:
Today the top of Vesta Road also marks the border between SE14 and SE4.
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51 Shardeloes Road Seeing your mention of Shardeloes Rd & your earlier post (2008) mentioning Habadashers Company; I wondered if your or your readers could tell me if the HC were likely to have provided residential accommodation to ex-Milliners in the 1870's. I have traced the Bank's sisters who were Milliners & Dressmakers in St Pancras & Marylebone, but who retire to Deptford between 1871 & 1881. Otherwise, I can't find any other connection with the area. They lived at number 51, does it still exist?
I don't believe that Shardeloes Road was developed by the Haberdashers Company - it's not now part of the Telegraph Hill Conservation Area which covers most of the housing developed by them locally.
I don't think htat house is still there - if you look on Google Earth, you can see that there are lots of old houses on the Western even number side, but on the opposite side of the roard it's mostly flats now at that end of the road. Will have a proper look next time I'm walking down there.
Interesting stuff - what a folorn-looking trace of the past! There's an old London Kent marker somewhere on the river between Deptford and Rotherhithe. I'll try to take a picture next time I'm there...
This is one of the stopping points on my local history walks. The smaller blackish block in the picture beside the Kent/Surrey boundary marker is the boundary marker for the Haberdasher's estate. So all three boundaries: Kent/Surrey, Haberdashers/other owners, SE4/SE14 follow the same line here. A few of these boundary markers still exist.
Shardeloes Road (also covered on my last walk in March) was built as part of the Tyrwhitt/Drake estates (Shardeloes was the name of their family house near Amersham). It was not of the Haberdashers' estate. In any event, the Haberdashers' estate was built for general rental not for residential accommodation by members of the Haberdashers' company. I don't believe there were even preferential terms offered.
The area, which included 51 Shardeloes Road, was hit by a V2 rocket in the evening of 1 November 1944 (this got mentioned in my last walk as well). A dozen or so houses on that side got totally destroyed and the rest later demolished and rebuilt as a housing estate. 36 people were killed by the explosion.
Thanks Malcolm, I'm still confused about the Kent/Surrey border and think I may have got it wrong in the original post. Although as you go past the post heading down Vesta Road the bit of the post facing you says Surrey, aren't you actually heading down into Kent at that point?
It tells you where the boundary is and where you are (it is a boundary marker) not what is on the other side or where you are going (it's not a sign post).
So it says "Kent" on the Kent side (East, SE4) and "Surrey" on the Surrey side (West, SE14). Hope that helps.
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